That leaves Cameron with no room for manoeuvre unless he can find a way to revitalise the Coalition with the Lib Dems. Keeping them onside (so far as that is possible) has alienated his right wing and may well lead to a leadership challenge unless the economy improves and leads to a significant improvement in the polls. Caught in a cleft stick of his own making.
The comments on Norman Tebbit's blog on the subject of Cameron and the EU referendum has reached 2000 how many of our so called leaders can top that.
If only Mr Tebbit was many years younger what larks!
Its been snowing here since 9.30am and having enjoyed an exceptional lunch of roast pheasant with all the trimmings washed down with an excellent claret I have spent the last couple of hours reading the posts on here to pass the time.
What I find surprising is the resentment shown by many against those who have switched to UKIP of who I am one. Now it cannot be denied that there is a huge build up of anti EU feeling throughout the nation the reasons for which are too numerous to site in this post. However the Conservatives (who I have supported for 50years) seem oblivious to the nations disenchantment and seem to believe that. A) A Cameron vague promise of a referendum sometime will persuade UKIP defectors to return. B) A change of leader will also boost Conservative support. Well I am afraid that neither will suffice in fact the ONLY chance the Conservatives have is to call an in/out binding referendum BEFORE 2015.
This of course will not happen and the Conservative nemesis was born in these interviews http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1JReyGsdOA
Cameron has lost the nations trust its that simple
Its been snowing here since 9.30am and having enjoyed an exceptional lunch of roast pheasant with all the trimmings washed down with an excellent claret I have spent the last couple of hours reading the posts on Coservativw Home to pass the time.
What I find surprising is the resentment shown by many against those who have switched to UKIP of who I am one. Now it cannot be denied that there is a huge build up of anti EU feeling throughout the nation the reasons for which are too numerous to site in this post. However the Conservatives (who I have supported for 50years) seem oblivious to the nations disenchantment and seem to believe that. A) A Cameron vague promise of a referendum sometime will persuade UKIP defectors to return. B) A change of leader will also boost Conservative support. Well I am afraid that neither will suffice in fact the ONLY chance the Conservatives have is to call an in/out binding referendum BEFORE 2015.
This of course will not happen and the Conservative nemesis was born in these interviews http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1JReyGsdOA
Cameron has lost the nations trust its that simple
The idea of a coalition between UKIP and the Conservatives is an interesting mirage but thats all it is. Much as the rise of UKIP pleases me there is no realistic chance of therm winning seats at the next election and so a coalition would be pointless. However I do believe Farage is sincere and casn fully understand why coalition with Cameron is untenable. Never has there been such an arrogant and contemptuous Conservative leader. In fact can anyone ever recall a Prime Minister who has described any group of voters in the derogatory terms that Cameron uses against mainstream conservatives?
Cameron will almost certainly lose the next election UKIP or no UKIP thanks to his own perverse politics but if he doesn't and someohow manages to keep the Conservatives as the largest party the only thing I can think he will do is try to crawl into bed with the Libdems again and frankly thats where he deserves to be in bed with the most duplicitousd two faced bunch of chancers in politics..
I do wonder though whether the Conservative Party can afford to keep Cameron any longer. He is destroying the brand completely.
After nearly 70 years of voting and backing the Conservatives I have changed to UKIP I uased to say nothing would ever make me change even when we had the worst leader ever, Heath, but cameron said labour wasn't listening if thats the case DC is deaf! what he doesn't realise now is even if he promises a referendum after the election NOBODY will believe him is he that stupid that he can't see whats in front of him, disaster,I know voting UKIP will let labour in but if the back benchers are also in denial then they deserve to lose their seats. Put them back in opposition for 5/10 years and they might just might learn lessons that a leader who puts the party and the people second will come second everytime.Vote UKIP lets get a party who cares about the country and the people on its way to being the third party, and if cameron has is way in a few years they could be the major party like the Conservatives used to be.
Only Farage can Fuhrer! Amusing that his "out but within the EEA" is now being outflanked by Fresh Start with "complete Out". Methinks Farage has overplayed his hand as he cannot even make his own position clear and any referendum is going to be a dog's breakfast - staying in the EEA means paying in nearly as much and Amazon can hide theor profits, while Switzerland is within the Schengen area and the evil ECHR is only court to have upheld religious freedom, unlike Uk judges.
I do believe the only chance Cameron has to bring Clegg to heel is to dump Sam and form a civil partenership with nick.
could be why he is pushing his latest venture.
David Cameldung has done untold damage to the conservative party.
Posted by: belbylafarge | January 20, 2013 at 04:29 PM
That leaves Cameron with no room for manoeuvre unless he can find a way to revitalise the Coalition with the Lib Dems. Keeping them onside (so far as that is possible) has alienated his right wing and may well lead to a leadership challenge unless the economy improves and leads to a significant improvement in the polls. Caught in a cleft stick of his own making.
Posted by: @Romsey56 | January 20, 2013 at 04:40 PM
The comments on Norman Tebbit's blog on the subject of Cameron and the EU referendum has reached 2000 how many of our so called leaders can top that.
If only Mr Tebbit was many years younger what larks!
Posted by: I Albion | January 20, 2013 at 04:43 PM
Its been snowing here since 9.30am and having enjoyed an exceptional lunch of roast pheasant with all the trimmings washed down with an excellent claret I have spent the last couple of hours reading the posts on here to pass the time.
What I find surprising is the resentment shown by many against those who have switched to UKIP of who I am one. Now it cannot be denied that there is a huge build up of anti EU feeling throughout the nation the reasons for which are too numerous to site in this post. However the Conservatives (who I have supported for 50years) seem oblivious to the nations disenchantment and seem to believe that. A) A Cameron vague promise of a referendum sometime will persuade UKIP defectors to return. B) A change of leader will also boost Conservative support. Well I am afraid that neither will suffice in fact the ONLY chance the Conservatives have is to call an in/out binding referendum BEFORE 2015.
This of course will not happen and the Conservative nemesis was born in these interviews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1JReyGsdOA
Cameron has lost the nations trust its that simple
Posted by: Roy | January 20, 2013 at 05:12 PM
Its been snowing here since 9.30am and having enjoyed an exceptional lunch of roast pheasant with all the trimmings washed down with an excellent claret I have spent the last couple of hours reading the posts on Coservativw Home to pass the time.
What I find surprising is the resentment shown by many against those who have switched to UKIP of who I am one. Now it cannot be denied that there is a huge build up of anti EU feeling throughout the nation the reasons for which are too numerous to site in this post. However the Conservatives (who I have supported for 50years) seem oblivious to the nations disenchantment and seem to believe that. A) A Cameron vague promise of a referendum sometime will persuade UKIP defectors to return. B) A change of leader will also boost Conservative support. Well I am afraid that neither will suffice in fact the ONLY chance the Conservatives have is to call an in/out binding referendum BEFORE 2015.
This of course will not happen and the Conservative nemesis was born in these interviews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1JReyGsdOA
Cameron has lost the nations trust its that simple
Posted by: Roy | January 20, 2013 at 05:14 PM
You are Jacob Rees Mogg and I claim my £200.
Posted by: Bill Bailey | January 20, 2013 at 06:04 PM
The idea of a coalition between UKIP and the Conservatives is an interesting mirage but thats all it is. Much as the rise of UKIP pleases me there is no realistic chance of therm winning seats at the next election and so a coalition would be pointless. However I do believe Farage is sincere and casn fully understand why coalition with Cameron is untenable. Never has there been such an arrogant and contemptuous Conservative leader. In fact can anyone ever recall a Prime Minister who has described any group of voters in the derogatory terms that Cameron uses against mainstream conservatives?
Cameron will almost certainly lose the next election UKIP or no UKIP thanks to his own perverse politics but if he doesn't and someohow manages to keep the Conservatives as the largest party the only thing I can think he will do is try to crawl into bed with the Libdems again and frankly thats where he deserves to be in bed with the most duplicitousd two faced bunch of chancers in politics..
I do wonder though whether the Conservative Party can afford to keep Cameron any longer. He is destroying the brand completely.
Posted by: william blakes ghost | January 20, 2013 at 06:27 PM
After nearly 70 years of voting and backing the Conservatives I have changed to UKIP I uased to say nothing would ever make me change even when we had the worst leader ever, Heath, but cameron said labour wasn't listening if thats the case DC is deaf! what he doesn't realise now is even if he promises a referendum after the election NOBODY will believe him is he that stupid that he can't see whats in front of him, disaster,I know voting UKIP will let labour in but if the back benchers are also in denial then they deserve to lose their seats. Put them back in opposition for 5/10 years and they might just might learn lessons that a leader who puts the party and the people second will come second everytime.Vote UKIP lets get a party who cares about the country and the people on its way to being the third party, and if cameron has is way in a few years they could be the major party like the Conservatives used to be.
Posted by: Pete Straw | January 20, 2013 at 08:57 PM
Farage is the only Party Leader worth listening to.
Cameron, Clegg and Miliband are Bilderberg-approved clones.
Posted by: boudicca | January 20, 2013 at 09:29 PM
Only Farage can Fuhrer! Amusing that his "out but within the EEA" is now being outflanked by Fresh Start with "complete Out". Methinks Farage has overplayed his hand as he cannot even make his own position clear and any referendum is going to be a dog's breakfast - staying in the EEA means paying in nearly as much and Amazon can hide theor profits, while Switzerland is within the Schengen area and the evil ECHR is only court to have upheld religious freedom, unlike Uk judges.
Posted by: Dave Hollins MBA | January 20, 2013 at 09:58 PM
I do believe the only chance Cameron has to bring Clegg to heel is to dump Sam and form a civil partenership with nick.
could be why he is pushing his latest venture.
Posted by: ogga1 | January 20, 2013 at 10:11 PM