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July 22, 2010

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JCS

Well done the palace authorities. Scum like this should not be at Buckingham Palace garden parties.

Stephen

Appalling news. I don't support the BNP but I do support democracy and this is a disgrace.

Martin Marprelate- A Man in the Street!

The silly sod publicised that he was attending and made a "political issue" out of it. He should have quietly accepted it, turned up, then if he wished to he could have mentioned it after the event.

TIM

It is absolutely disgusting and yet another sign of the domination of the UK by an undemocratic ultra liberal elite.

Snake

What a pathetic excuse to refuse him entry, at least they could have come up with something more original.

Around a third of all births in the UK are now to ethnic minority parents, in London well over a half. In a few decades time the monarchy will be abolished because the population will be majority ethnic minority and they will be powerful enough to abolish a head of state system which is perpetually white.

Wake up people, Nick Griffin is the true patriot.

Tim Montgomerie

Helpful to know where you are coming from Snake.

Ultimo Tiger

Griffin is undemocratic though TIM.

Do you not read the Nationalist blogs? The man is in meltdown, sacking any party member who disagrees with him.

You see one day, the stuff I read about this conman will be aired all over the place. Who cares about his immigration policy when he's such a fraud? I'm convinced he's a state asset. How the hell else would he get all these media appearences?

Tomdaylight

Wrong move by Buckingham Palace - but it's far from "deeply shocking"!!!!!!

Union

@ Tomdaylight - It's not deeply shocking in the sense that it is entirely predictable, it is in the sense that it offends the idea that the UK is a liberal democracy.

I thought that the monarchy was supposed to not be political? I thought that Nick Griffin was, despite all the efforts of the liberal elite, an elected MEP.

David Lindsay

Nick Griffin could have explained to the Queen that Fascist parties have never come to power in countries with monarchies except in one (admittedly significant) case where they abolished that institution as quickly as possible, and that it is his own party's policy to depose her as apartheid South Africa did and as Ian Smith's Rhodesia purported to do.

When not discussing Her Majesty's own descent, both from the "negroid" Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, and, via Elizabeth of York with her Moorish antecedents, from Muhammad. Queen Charlotte, after whom the city in North Carolina is named, is shown clearly with light skin but African facial features in contemporaneous portraiture, and was spoken of as "negroid" without any self-consciousness during her lifetime.

She was descended from the part-black Royal House of Portugal, a member of which, Catherine of Braganza who was the consort of Charles II but from whom no one is descended (unlike her husband...), is shown looking just like a mixed-raced Briton of today in a portrait displayed in one of the private areas of Durham Castle. I sat under it only on Monday, waiting for the champagne to flow and the Vice-Chancellor to speak at the launch of a friend's festschrift. It did, and he did.

This really would have been the last opportunity for Griffin and Her Majesty to have had that conversation. The BNP took barely half as many votes this year as last year, fought 38 council seats and lost 36 of them, and lost every seat on Barking & Dagenham Council, of which it had thought that it might take control. Like the NF before it and the BUF before that, the BNP was always talked up by its sectarian Left opponents, in order to make themselves appear more important than they really were. This remains very much the case with the teaching of the 1930s. Mosley was never really terribly important. Nor was Griffin.

Every 30 or 40 years, this tendency reappears to make a lot of noise before going away again. Thankfully, I will be in my sixties or older before it happens again. And thankfully, it would, once more, only last for a few years. That is how these things work.

Ultimo Tiger

I'm telling you, he's an MI5 plant or something. Otherwise we'd never have heard of him.

Union

@ David Lindsay - Imperial Japan was a monarchy, as was Italy under Mussolini, as was Greece in the late 1960s.

And no, anti-immigration parties will not go away this time, because the number of ethnic minorities in the UK is now going to rise inexorably and massively in the coming years due to higer birth rates. If it's not the BNP there will be some other political movement which is anti-immigration. People will start to see with their own eyes the impact that the mass immigration over the past decades has had, no amount of media brainwashing will be able to hide it.

"We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependants, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre. So insane are we that we actually permit unmarried persons to immigrate for the purpose of founding a family with spouses and fiancées whom they have never seen"

"For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted. On top of this, they now learn that a one-way privilege is to be established by Act of Parliament; a law which cannot, and is not intended to, operate to protect them or redress their grievances, is to be enacted to give the stranger, the disgruntled and the agent provocateur the power to pillory them for their private actions."

- Enoch Powell

Ultimo Tiger

Ahhhhhhh so on replies to my points.

Typical.

JCS

Nick Griffith cannot play a part in public life because he is a apologist for Hitler and a racist. Its that simple.Would you expect the Queen to entertain Hitler of course not so she should not entertain people who follow the same ideals as the German mass murderer.

Ultimo Tiger

Ohhhhhhhhh look at this, a leadership challenge!

http://griffinwatch-nwn.blogspot.com/2010/07/eddy-butler-goes-on-counter-offensive.html

Victor Southern

David Lindsay - you are probably demented.

Apart from the spurious rubbish you wrote above on the Monarchy I want to inform you that Ian Smith's government in Rhodesia at all times had the Queen's head on stamps and coins. I didn't like Ian Smith but facts are still important.

"When not discussing Her Majesty's own descent", you say and then rattle on about non-sequiturs and trivia of past centuries. Apart from you and the BNP who the hell cares?

Back to Griffin - poor dear, he is offended. Good. At least it has brought into the open those exact BNP sympathizers or members who this week were denying being anti-Semites.

A plague and murrain on ye all.

David Lindsay

@Union, Japan was not a Fascist regime, properly so called. Like liberal democracy, you need a Biblical-Classical heritage to produce Fascism. Mussolini, of course, was the example to which I refered in my initial comment; he was greatly assisted by the fact that many people in the South did not regard it as their monarchy, anyway.

People said that the BUF would never go way. It did. They said that they NF would go away. In exactly the same manner, it did. They now say that the BNP will never go away. In exactly the same manner, it has already started to do so. Something else will emerge. But not for three or four decades. And then only for a few noisy years before it, too, goes away in exactly in the same manner. That is how it works. Always has. Always will.

Ultimo Tiger

But Victor, did not the boy called Ian abolish the legitimate head of state of that nation?

marginal comment

Go Tatchell!

Rod.Sellers

This discrimination and the feeble justification given,stinks.The fact that Griffin is unattractive and is abhored by the liberal establishment is irrelevant.

Once he was elected as an MEP ( a dubious honour anyway) he should enjoy the same perks as all the rest.

Steve Tierney

I support free speech even from the unpleasant membership of the BNP. I supported their appearance on Question Time (in order that their arguments could be challenged publicly).

But the Queen has rights too. Rights to decide who she lets in her house. If I were the Queen I wouldn't want Nick Griffin hanging out in my garden with my guests either. Good for her.

robert

On Question Time he was treated very badly by a left wing audience and panel organised by a left wing BBC. Nick Griffin was not given a fair hearing and I feared for his safety.
As an elected MEP it was wrong to deny him cucumber sandwiches, victoria sponge and tea at the palace with a thousand or so others.

Paris Claims

So marxist mass murderers like Mugabe are welcomed and a true British patriot is shunned. Speaks volumes for the perilous stae of the nation.

Yorkshireman

We know Griffin's odious, it goes without saying.

Does Francis Maude actually live in a so called "multi-cultural" area? Perhaps the senior members of the political class might try sending their children to a "multi-cultural" school. Do they really get much "multi-culturalism" at their selective fee paying grammar schools in affluent, white middle class areas?

Is that what has been missing from Bradford, the NCS ? How willthe NCS bring together the British public and the those who "empowered" individuals who wear the Burkha and wahabbi Islam supporters.?

I'll be interested to know how it brings together Pakistani / Somali youths because from what I've seen over the years there are a few, shall we say "social divisions" in those "communities"

Its a bit like the "Big Lunch" - more patronising, state sponsored drivel that tries to patch up the gaping wound that the disastrous multi-cultural experiment has left behind.

Ed

"it is his own party's policy to depose her as apartheid South Africa". I don't think South Africa has any relevance here. Only a minority of South Africa's white population were of British background in 1961 (around 40%). The majority were of Boer/Afrikaner background and had no tradition of monarchism and could hardly have been expected to have been loyal to the British throne.

It should also be remembered that in the early 60s the Second Anglo-Boer War was still within living memory, and many Afrikaans people still had bitter memories of the way the British had burned the Boer farmhouses and rounded up the entire civil population and put them in camps where thousands died of disease and starvation. To many the British Empire was little more than a latter day biblical Babylon.

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