That wouldn't make him a hypocrite at all. If he smoked inside pubs etc then he'd be a hypocrite. But smoking in legal areas (I assume) while supporting a restriction on smoking in other areas is not hypocrisy in the slightest.
If anything it works the opposite way since it undermines the claims that it's a case of hating and persecuting smokers.
Maybe hypocritical isn't the right word, but what he is saying, is that it is "normal" to enjoy smoking tobacco, and he is also saying that in order for him to indulge in what is a perfectly legal pursuit, he has to hide away somewhere, in this case on a hypothetical island, but in reality, as he mentions himself, he is frightened to let his children know that he smokes.
When the time comes, as it has now, that adults are frightened of what their children will say, then we know that the clock has been turned back to the 1930s, when propaganda like this was used on children in Nazi Germany. Children then were programmed to hate Jews, it was the Jews they were told who were ruining their country.
Today our propagandists are indoctrinating our children, telling them that people who smoke are evil, and that by smoking, they are harming their own children and everyone else around them.
There was of course no evidence to support the Nazis claim about the Jews, and there is absolutely no real evidence today to support this other fictitious claim, regarding second-hand smoke.
'corporeal' states that "smoking in legal areas while supporting a restriction on smoking in other areas is not hypocrisy in the slightest"
As I have already said, I do not class what he said as hypocrisy in any way. What I do see as hypocritical, is for "anyone" to define what is a "legal" area in which adults should be allowed to smoke within. Surely a legal area should be any area which advertises itself as such, and caters only to those who wish to partake in that activity, whatever it may be, without harming anyone else.
I believe that Nick Clegg has dared to poke his head above the parapet of the health fascists here by making this one small step in the direction of freedom of choice.
"There was of course no evidence to support the Nazis claim about the Jews, and there is absolutely no real evidence today to support this other fictitious claim, regarding second-hand smoke."
Thank goodness somebody is showing a bit of common sense.
My grandchildren came to visit me today and one of them commented on my smoking indoors. I told her that it was MY house so it is MY rules. Clegg should tell his children the same or do his children rule the house like many other children.
Adults should have the right to smoke. Non-smokers have the right to think that smoking is a disgusting habit. Smokers don't have the right to inflict their disgusting, stinking, habit on others. New Labour was an utter disaster and I quote the smoking legislation as (virtually) their only sensible policy. I'd rather someone farted in my company than smoke.
So it is true then, he is human after all!
Posted by: Peter Thurgood | October 24, 2010 at 10:43 AM
Ok the Clegg, are you going to support the repeal of the smoking ban in pubs etc? Otherwise you are a hypocrite.
Posted by: Martin Marprelate- A Man in the Street! | October 24, 2010 at 10:46 AM
That wouldn't make him a hypocrite at all. If he smoked inside pubs etc then he'd be a hypocrite. But smoking in legal areas (I assume) while supporting a restriction on smoking in other areas is not hypocrisy in the slightest.
If anything it works the opposite way since it undermines the claims that it's a case of hating and persecuting smokers.
Posted by: corporeal | October 24, 2010 at 11:51 AM
Maybe hypocritical isn't the right word, but what he is saying, is that it is "normal" to enjoy smoking tobacco, and he is also saying that in order for him to indulge in what is a perfectly legal pursuit, he has to hide away somewhere, in this case on a hypothetical island, but in reality, as he mentions himself, he is frightened to let his children know that he smokes.
When the time comes, as it has now, that adults are frightened of what their children will say, then we know that the clock has been turned back to the 1930s, when propaganda like this was used on children in Nazi Germany. Children then were programmed to hate Jews, it was the Jews they were told who were ruining their country.
Today our propagandists are indoctrinating our children, telling them that people who smoke are evil, and that by smoking, they are harming their own children and everyone else around them.
There was of course no evidence to support the Nazis claim about the Jews, and there is absolutely no real evidence today to support this other fictitious claim, regarding second-hand smoke.
'corporeal' states that "smoking in legal areas while supporting a restriction on smoking in other areas is not hypocrisy in the slightest"
As I have already said, I do not class what he said as hypocrisy in any way. What I do see as hypocritical, is for "anyone" to define what is a "legal" area in which adults should be allowed to smoke within. Surely a legal area should be any area which advertises itself as such, and caters only to those who wish to partake in that activity, whatever it may be, without harming anyone else.
I believe that Nick Clegg has dared to poke his head above the parapet of the health fascists here by making this one small step in the direction of freedom of choice.
Posted by: Peter Thurgood | October 24, 2010 at 12:36 PM
"Ok the Clegg, are you going to support the repeal of the smoking ban in pubs etc? Otherwise you are a hypocrite."
Some people smoke but don't agree that all smokers have the right to smoke wherever they please.
Posted by: Raj | October 24, 2010 at 12:55 PM
But surely they could cut some dosh from the smoking ban 'enforcement budget' ?
Or make the ban a 'three strikes and you're out' law rather than one strike and a massive fine/loss of licence ?
Posted by: Bedd Gelert | October 24, 2010 at 01:13 PM
Ok the Clegg, are you going to support the repeal of the smoking ban in pubs etc? Otherwise you are a hypocrite.
I have sex, it is legal to have sex. It doesn't mean that I should be allowed to do it pubs.
Posted by: jack c | October 24, 2010 at 01:15 PM
"There was of course no evidence to support the Nazis claim about the Jews, and there is absolutely no real evidence today to support this other fictitious claim, regarding second-hand smoke."
Thank goodness somebody is showing a bit of common sense.
Posted by: Wingnut | October 24, 2010 at 03:12 PM
My grandchildren came to visit me today and one of them commented on my smoking indoors. I told her that it was MY house so it is MY rules. Clegg should tell his children the same or do his children rule the house like many other children.
Posted by: Charles | October 24, 2010 at 03:27 PM
The story that he used to like a fag after dinner has been around for some time.
Posted by: anon | October 24, 2010 at 05:32 PM
Adults should have the right to smoke. Non-smokers have the right to think that smoking is a disgusting habit. Smokers don't have the right to inflict their disgusting, stinking, habit on others. New Labour was an utter disaster and I quote the smoking legislation as (virtually) their only sensible policy. I'd rather someone farted in my company than smoke.
Posted by: BlueArsedFly | October 25, 2010 at 06:41 PM
If thou dost ill,the joy fades,not the pains;if well,the pain doth fade,the joy remains.
Posted by: jordans 4 | November 06, 2010 at 06:23 AM