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April 03, 2011

Iain Duncan Smith talks to Sky News' Dermot Murnaghan about his benefit reform plans in a 15-minute interview

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Yorkshireman

Any idea how this EU policy will help reduce the welfare bill ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1256108/British-taxpayers-fork-millions-benefits-EU-migrants.html

"British taxpayers to fork out millions more in benefits for EU migrants"

"From April 2011, immigrants from Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Hungary, Lithuania, Slovakia, Slovenia and the Czech Republic – where income levels are 40 per cent of the European average – will be allowed to claim Jobseekers’ Allowance and other benefits after just three months."


Iain Gill

funny he doesnt mention swamping the country with indian nationals on ICT visas displacing brits from the workforce, and going on to give many of them indefinite leave to remain

get brits back to work by shutting them out of the IT industry and replacing them with slave labour from india?

giving indian work visa holders a status which means they do not need to pay national insurance and get significant tax advantages is actually racist against native brits, thats the reality you politcially correct folk out there

IDS mate you are so out of touch

robert

IDS was a disaster as leader of the Conservative Party and is no better as a Minister in the Coalition Government.
His idea to give more money to the long term unemployed to encourage them to work is nonsense.
Unemployment benefit should be reduced over time for healthy people who refuse to work.

robert

The new flat rate pension will not apply to existing pensioners.
Does IDS think that having different pension rates for existing and new pensioners in 2015 will be acceptable to the general public or will it be challenged in the courts for unfair discrimination.

Andrew Smith

Practical problems abound, such as verifying the assets of the claimant (which could affect the payments), verifying they are seeking work after they return to their native country (when benefits may continue for considerable periods without effective verification).

Steve Tierney

Its true that there are already rumbles of discontent from existing pensioners who are worried that everybody will get extra EXCEPT for them. This will become an issue if it isnt tackled.

SuperBlue

Thankyou so much for your "Mein Kampf" extracts.

PaulJ

What an odd reply. How are the facts in Iain's comment not correct? Outsource contracts typically go to India and some to China and Russia. Indian companies typically employ Indians to the exclusion of local people and they come in on visa's that have the characteristics mentioned.

This has been going on for around 15 years and represents not only the loss of jobs here but giving away skills and technologies to our competitors. This is a recipe for killing off an industry. First IT, next steel and then cars.

I suggest the next industry to be given away will be pharmaceuticals.

If you are trying to rebuild and sustain an economy why on earth would you give away so many advantages to your competitors?

PaulJ

I thought IDS was quite impressive in this interview. It is clear he is passionate about these issues but at the same time he brings common sense rather than the usual political waffle to the approach. He has taken on two of the really nasty problems our society faces and if he is allowed to deliver on his plans he will benefit the economy and our society significantly.

As to the potential disparity between the old and new pension schemes, well if the bureaucrats started facilitating and cooperating rather than blocking cost reduction initiatives maybe there would be funds to address any shortfall.

SuperBlue


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What an ACCURATE reply onmy part - ze Daily Rant
repeats ze same point vord for vord every day.

Then again, he is known to use several names and
IP-masking so you probably ARE Iain Gill.

TomTom

Murnaghan was disastrous. It was unclear what this interview was trying to elicit. The questions were all over the place and confused. I really don't know why IDS wasted his time on such a third rate Sky interview. Sky is getting worse by the day and seems to exist only to plug Sky Movies or Sky Football. SkyNews is really poor and the interviewing skills frankly abysmal

Martin Marprelate- A Man in the Street!

Iain Duncan-Smith only speaks for himself or possibly is quoting a "weighted" poll which gives him the answer he wants to hear. I have asked the question of many workmates and friends on when they wish to quit work and most would do so on their 65 birthday if not sooner as I would wish to do myself. The general feedback of people of my age group, (I'm 58), is that they WANT to stop work when they are 65 as they have expected to do for years but may HAVE to work on longer than that owing to poor pensions etc. The younger workers I have spoken to on this subject are RESIGNED to working on longer possibly to 67 or even 70 if that is when State Pension Age comes for them, but not many LIKE the idea of having to do so. Like it or not most people work because they HAVE to, to earn the money they need to live, to pay their mortgage or rent, to eat etc. Apart from those who are truly in a Vocation for example the Clergy, Doctors, Nurses, some School Teachers and Lecturers, and I would imagine Politicians such as MPs, MEPs, MSPs etc most people work for their wages, no more, no less, whatever writers of learned tomes and HR types may care to say, and look forward if possible to putting away their toolkit, pens, calculator etc for the last time and having some life in retirement to enjoy before the grim reaper claims them.

Duncan-Smith, the worst Leader the Conservatives had since Bonnar-Law and not even allowed to lead his party into a General Election, is talking through his ar5e as usual when he says that people WANT to work on longer, but hey when has that ever stopped a Politican pushing a line?

Iain Gill


Re "Thankyou so much for your "Mein Kampf" extracts

Then again, he is known to use several names and
IP-masking so you probably ARE Iain Gill."

yet again nazi name called allowed to stand by the moderators from superblue, who does not know me, and i have never said anything remotely pro nazi, this is very upsetting, and very poor moderation

IP-masking is also libel and lies

"several names" I am sure not PaulJ, names I go by are Father, son, friend, Nazi hater, and so on

dorsetdumpling

Isn't it strange that when the economy was in a better state post 1997, the indigenous population of Britain weren't exactly racing to get jobs.....under Labour Disability Allowances were at an all time high.....a variety of Job Seeker benefits were employed to lure people into work - did it help? No. I remember watching a documentary about EU workers coming across to take up jobs British people would not undertake - why? Because they thought the work too hard. There is no doubt that the British work ethic has declined over the past 20 odd years. Is it because expectations were raised unrealistically at school/college/university about what sort of employment people could expect? British people cannot moan about other nationalities coming here to work if they (the British people) won't get off their backsides and take up work that is available. IDS is grasping a very difficult nettle here and bringing in benefit reform - there are many people in this country who applaud his effort - those who are working hard and seeing too much of our taxation going into paying people who just will not work. It's time for the various benefits to be reassessed; we are willing to help those who genuinely need help; we want to see those who are just seeing benefits as a cosy option, firmly helped on their way into work. It's common sense...let's get on with it.

SuperBlue


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Fair comment on my part!

Iain Gill

just libel from a coward

schoolboy debating style of the worst kind

you deserve exactly what you would get in the playground if you called me a nazi

PaulJ

I am not Ian Gill. I suspect we both have worked in the same industry and seen the same results of outsourcing.

I can't comment on whether his is a daily rant but if you see something you consider wrong or objectionable do you just complain once or as often as you can?

Have you had to train someone from a "low cost centre" in your own job and then be made redundant? Have you simply lost your job because the company executives decided outsourcing to people on lower salaries preserved their bonuses?

And before you accuse me of racism my anger is reserved for the executives and politicians who give away our technologies, skills and jobs for their benefit, not the recipients.

Jockey Wilson

Without spectacular growth in the economy IDS' welfare reforms will fail miserably.

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