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Posted at 07:59 AM in crime, Current Affairs | Permalink
Forced marriage a criminal offence is one thing but an arranged marriage between a consenting man and a woman is another.
Imposing single sex marriage is the issue not arranged real marriages within consenting families.
January 20, 2013 at 09:34 AM
Isn't it already illegal? As rape and assault? While an involuntary marriage ceremony does not result in a legal marriage. Why the need for a new law?
William MacDougall |
January 20, 2013 at 10:23 AM
The British crown was once always arranged marriages in the interest of diplomacy,and several cultures accept arranged marriages and as long as there is consent ,that is acceptable.As stated there are sufficient laws to cope with forced marriages,if it can be proven.A new law will not make that proof any easier to enforce or the evidence easier to gather.What if after a period of time someone in an arranged consensual marriage is unhappy and complains of being forced?
Before dealing with this subject the govt would be better seeking public approval for the constitutional change to British marriage
adrian clarke |
January 20, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Yes, forced marriage is already illegal in all respects. See the law on Common Assault and also Section 1 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003.
Why this pointless legislation then? Presumably to pander to the sort of moron believes what the tabloids tell him about the subject.
January 20, 2013 at 11:21 AM
Good news. But try proving it.
Paris Claims |
January 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM
This will not apply where Sharia courts rule the land. They already have their independence. Perhaps the Scots have something to learn from them.
It doesn't add up... |
January 20, 2013 at 12:09 PM
As others have pointed out there are already numerous laws against forced marriage (adduction, illegal detention, threatening behaviour, rape…..). Furthermore a marriage conducted under duress is null and void. It is time we stopped inventing yet more pointless laws to “make a point” and stated applying properly the laws we have.
David MacDonald |
January 20, 2013 at 12:10 PM
Cameron did say that he was the'heir to Blair' This type of thing was a classic Blair tactic. Pass a piece of legislation and give the impression that you were doing something constructive. As in many other areas of the criminal law there is already sufficient and adequate legislation to deal with forced marriage, just as the offences of drunk and disorderly and disorderly behaviour are adequate to deal with Saturday night drunkenness on our streets. What is required is enforcement of which we do not see enough of!
Ray McErlean |
January 20, 2013 at 01:38 PM
It should to be made quite clear to these “communities” that they must either conform to our British customs, mores and laws or find some other country in which they would feel more at home.
David MacDonald |
January 20, 2013 at 03:08 PM
Honour killing, forced marriages and female infanticide come from Pagan-Hindu-Judeo-Christian traditions. Hindus idolise women as Goddesses on one hand, while downgrading them on the sly at the same time. There is nothing in the Holy Quran and the Hadiths that may encourage people to kill their daughters. Infact, Islam came to abolish the dark ages of Pagan- Hindu –Judeo- Christian traditions. Islam is a matter of choice and there is no compulsion at all. It is a misconception that forced marriage and honour killing are part of Muslim culture. Forced marriage, honour killing and genital mutilation are rare practices among migrant communities. Muslim migrants are worried about institutional racism, binge drinking, drug addiction, incivility, gun and knife crimes, high rate of abortions and teen age pregnancies. An average of 20 English girls under the age of 16 falls pregnant every day. Muslim parents do not want their children to be integrated into such barbarity. Muslim women feel torn between two cultures, thanks to the British education system with non-Muslim monolingual teachers. It makes their lives very confusing.
The tragedy of forced marriage and honour killing could have been avoided if the poor girls were educated in a single sex state funded Muslim schools by female Muslim teachers. Educational attainment rises quite significantly if boys and girls are educated separately. The tragedies are an eye opener for all those Muslim parents who send their children to state schools where they are exposed to non-Muslim teachers who have no respect for Islamic faith and Muslim community and do not understand the needs and demands of the Muslim children. Muslim schools are crucial for Muslim children because western education makes a man/woman stupid. The hypocrisy of the Western society is clearly seen whereas an Australian Judge failed to jail nine males who admitted gang-raping a 10-year old aborigine girl in 2005, saying the victim probably agreed to have sex with them and a UNICEF Photo of the year shows, a bridegroom, 40, with his 11-year old bride in Afghanistan. In my opinion, a UNICEF photo of the year must show a nine year British girl having a baby and another photo showing a gang of teenage girls with anti-social behaviour and vomiting out side a pub, thanks to binge drinking. Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. Muslim schools are the solutions and not a problem. They help to strengthen community cohesion, not undermine it. Muslim schools stand as shining beacons of light, serving as one of the most crucial factors which protect Muslim children from the onslaught of Eurocentricism, homosexuality, racism and secular values and traditions. They need to be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time they need to be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. Muslim schools are not only faith schools but also bilingual schools. Infact, bilingualism is an asset and not a problem as perceived by the British education system. There is a positive co-relation between language and culture. English language is associated with western culture.
The silent majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to Muslim schools but there are not enough schools to go by. The only alternative left is either British Government should introduce voucher system for parents to choose the school of their choice or designate all those state schools as Muslim community schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslims are in majority. Such schools may be handed over to Muslim educational Trusts or charities for their management. They are in a better position to educate Muslim children in accordance with their needs and demands. This demand is in accordance with the law of the land because there are state schools already managed by private companies. Muslim community is not asking for a favour. It is their legal right.
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January 20, 2013 at 09:45 PM
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